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Braggin’? Not so much.

December 11th, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

Been a while since I talked about that little morning tournament that's become part of my life. Well, I didn't want a Type 2 Poker Blog. You know the one. It is populated with the donkeys who are oh so much more lucky than they've a right. Well, you can fill in the rest.


The last time I placed was 11/16. That's getting close to a month and is the longest interim I can recall in playing this tournament. I went ten or twelve days once before. Now, the donkeys weren't braying any louder than usual. The burros didn't frisk on the streets looking for a handout. Fish weren't hurling themselves up on the bank or into my skillet.


A civilian standing outside the WSOP and hearing a conversation might think he'd been transported to a foreign climate and language. There I was UTG and I picked up Anna Kournakova. I three bet to try to isolate. This loose cannon that had a wide range called. The flop was an action one that was all broadway… Well, you get the idea — another bad beat story.


So, I guess I could throw out a bunch of words that would make me feel better about those three weeks. I played poorly at times but there isn't a day I don't manage to pull that off. It seemed to all consist of suckouts and crying call when I did have something to play. I expect that and even welcome it. Good Stud8 play isn't about what you win as much as about what you don't lose. And when 6 see the bringin and 5 see the river, you experience a lot of that.


Well, the worm finally turned:

11/16/2010 7CARD H/L Tournament 5842203 $13.05

[The Gap]

12/8/2010 7CARD H/L Tournament 5873672 $10.89

12/10/2010 7CARD H/L Tournament 5873674 $30.00


I liked the 8th. It was taking a weak stack all the way to final table and finding a payday. It really seemed like an annoying cash with little traction ever coming my way. Getting to the final table was pretty much a repeat of the previous day with a bit more traction but nothing exceptional. I was one of the low stacks. These final tables are played at levels that put you back to playing no limit. There was something just under 60K in chips in play and the levels started with the big bet around 1K. Heads up it was 2K.


I went to heads up against a guy that had chips at the final table – front to back. He played a lot of hands and his crying call hands worked. Heads up he had me two to one. He proceeded to play the same game with the same degree of chasing. I got some cards and in just a few hands I got lucky and even. From there on out, I made it a blood bath. It was one of those days where the reads were right on and the cards, if not decent, were at least semi. And the up cards say a lot playing heads up. He didn't change his game and I knew how to. I knew when and how to fold and he didn't.


Limit tournaments are a challenge if your game was NL. It takes everyone a while. Before they end, it calls for more gear changes and advanced pay than you might suspect. I riled about playing for highs in a recent blog. Take a hand like buried kings and a 6 up. Early, that is massively -EV. But later it is a trapping hand. Early, 5 or 6 are seeing the cheap bringin and when the streets don't make it special, you'll stay too long and donate to much to impossible odds. Late, it gets legs. When the right brick appears and it looks like you are chasing a low against his high, it becomes a license to steal.


If you are willing to accept a new learning curved, I think any of those reading this can do what I'm doing. It isn't rocket science and even the suckouts and poor reads don't send you to the sidelines right away. With aggressive play at NL on the increase, supposed superior play post flop isn't as productive. That isn't the case with limit. That is especially true with Stud8 but it works in other limit flavors.


My only disappointment is that this is a $3.30 tournament.


Quite a while ago, I posted a complete hand history of one of these. It was titled: For Masochist and there was just one – Bammer. He was kind enough to only seriously question one hand. But, if you search it on “RJSquirrel won”, you'll have a lot less reading. It should show you how the game changes at a limit tournament and provide a leg up.  I wouldn't do it; but, I suck at reading them.  I only post them occasionally.

The first hand is a perfect example of good things coming to decent (far from great) hands that conform to going for a low and the problems playing for only the high or with a starting brick.

Seat 4:  [Mucked] [Js 6h 3h Jc 8s 4s Ac]
Seat 6: RJSQUIRREL won Total (491) HI:(246) with Straight, five to nine [5d 2d 8d 3c 7d 6s 9s – P:9s,B:8d,B:7d,B:6s,P:5d] LO:(245) [P:2d,B:3c,P:5d,B:6s,B:7d]
Seat 8: [Mucked] [10h 9c 10s Qh Jh 9d 7h]

  1. December 11th, 2010 at 15:31 | #1

    <I>I liked the 8th. It was taking a weak stack all the way to final table and finding a payday.</i>
    Congrats on the win, but I'm at least as impressed with the one on the 8th. You didn't have much and only took what came to you — nice job.

  2. December 11th, 2010 at 17:21 | #2

    Thanks Mojo and welcome home.  Way the weather is going, I imagine you wouldn't have minded another week or two.

    Well, the first carried some gratification but the the later (and the one today) were more fun.  Love dem heads up.

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